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[winterlive]

red sky at morning, sailors take warning; red sky at night, sailor's delight, goes the old rhyme, and let's just underscore one more time here how one thing viewed from one angle is awful, but from another maybe not so much. maybe it's cute instead, or even necessary. larry andries and kripke are responsible for this sucker - larry's pretty new to our show, but he's been involved in some alias and some six feet under in times past, so i think he's got a decent CV. maybe he'll stick around some and we'll hold onto some of these nice layers.

bela, bela, bela, you have been a bad monkey! before, when we were hammering on her one single terrifically shallow note of morally grey thief, i wasn't getting along with bela so well, but. well. suffice it to say my tune has changed. the angry sex line was fantastic, even if the chemistry in that moment wound up being more awkward than anything. i'm starting to wonder, though, if that's not more a function of dean than of the actors - when he was crouching on the ground with her in his arms, trying to save her, things got way better. every minute he spent being really, really angry at her was good too. but i think dean's heart just isn't in it anymore, the witty repartee. being all flirty with some girl he doesn't like, nah. no thanks. but if she needs him - if she's being real with him - he can open up. just like with casey the demon, i think if we start to dig down into bela's history and what she had to do to her mother or sister or whatever, if she's really angry or scared or miserable instead of this flippant, shallow, dumb persona (just like dean's, not so incidentally, takes one to know one) we'll see things ramp up a lot more between them in terms of how much they'll be able to get out of each other.

also he looks good in a tux.

as does jared, which some feisty old lady's hands can well attest. one day jared's little faces are going to kill me. they'll make me laugh so hard that i won't be able to breathe, and it will kill me. jared, i hope you can sleep at night after that.

naked. on a pile of money. nnngh sam reading in candlelight.

i remember thinking when they did that opening shot with the girl in the shower about how sex and terror, both being as instantly and instinctually stimulating as they are, are pretty tied together. i thought about how it was a girl, and how it'd be better, from a feminist standpoint, that if people insisted on showing sexualized violence toward women in horror flicks, that they at least do the viewer the courtesy of doing the same toward men. and then, maybe three scenes later, a half-naked buff guy was bent over his bathroom sink while the creepy music was playing, and i said to myself, self? i love this show. like, no. seriously.

another thing about this episode - lots of quotables. the witty one-liners were AWESOME. sam, can i shoot her? ... not in public.

and as for dean's final line about maybe playing a little craps:

YES. THANK YOU, GOD. WE ARE WINCHESTERS AND WE DON'T TALK ABOUT OUR FRIGGIN FEELINGS, GLORY HALLELUJAH.

i think i could rewatch this one a few times and pull more out of it, y/n? a solid, meaty episode.





and on the topic of smallville, lana luthor is eviler at this point than lex will ever be.

discuss.

also she is ten JILLION times more awesome right now than she was in, say, season five.

oh oh, and ps, lois is scoring ALL the hot guys on this show! first ollie, now being-paid-off-by-either-lionel-or-j'onn-or-a-whole-NEW-evil editor? hotttt. go lois! it's your birthday!

annnnd, chloe. haven't you learned not to go up against luthors yet? seriously? get over yourself, kiddo. you're chump change in the big game.

Comments

[thenyxie.livejournal.com]

I agree with all of that. And Dean's face, playing craps, OMG Jensen! How does he DO it? The obvious asshole facade, the forced strength, yet the breaking underneath barely visible, and the Sammy breakng face for the WIN!

"Lately I just feel like I can't save anyone." Oh, SAMMYCAKES. I LOVE YOU.

naked. on a pile of money. And watch Dean's face as he imagines THAT. ILU Dean. That is ALL.

TUX! *breathes* And the Bela meta speaking for the fans (some of us) on the HATESEX, oh yes!

But, I have to say. My mind was more caught by the Cain/Abel brothers facing off and destroying each other theme, because, HFS, and OMFG. Foreshadowing? GAH. Is Dean going to have to take Sammy down as John prophecized from the beginning? OMG. This show, I love it to DEATH.

[winterlive.livejournal.com]

i don't buy it. there will be no faceoff, there will be no separation of the boys, there will be no wincester vs. winchester. that's not how this thing works and everybody knows it.

i honestly peg the fans as being more like skeevy old gert than hotass bela, but, hey. that's me. :D

[thenyxie.livejournal.com]

No? Oh man, I wish I was so sure. It sorta seems like it HAS to come down to them on opposite sides at the end of this war, at least briefly, if Sam's going Boy King. Dean will have to TRY and stop him. But maybe Sam will save himself before it gets to that? Eeee. I dunno, it's got me on the edge of my seat, though!

Hahaha! YES! :D What I meant to say was, speaking for those of us in the audience who are like "yes, get on with the hate sex you two!", because they so should. And she is HOT, is she not? Holy CRAP. Just stunningly gorgeous.

<--note icon, used just for you!

[jamesinboots.livejournal.com]

Oooh, I almost forgot this was the new guy!

I'm really digging the chemistry between Dean and Bela - the "don't objectify me" scene was HILARIOUS in it's complete akwardness. :P I, too, loved seeing Bela develop a little more, show some layers. Be interesting to see where they take her from here ... but you know, I think Dean definitely connects easiest to people he can help. That's what he does - he HELPS people, and that's natural for him, you know?

Boys in tuxes. Jared and Gert. Jared's faces. Jensen's faces. JESUS.

and then, maybe three scenes later, a half-naked buff guy was bent over his bathroom sink while the creepy music was playing

EEEEEE! *clappy hands* That's awesome. :D

One-liners, BWEEEEEEE! "You stink like sex." *snickers*

YES. THANK YOU, GOD. WE ARE WINCHESTERS AND WE DON'T TALK ABOUT OUR FRIGGIN FEELINGS, GLORY HALLELUJAH.

*giggles* I KNEW YOU'D LOVE THAT!

Damn, I love this episode. I love this show. DANNY. DAMN.

*paws at you and clings*

[winterlive.livejournal.com]

HE SAVES PEOPLE. HE HUNTS THINGS. DEAN WINCHESTER IS A HERO.

[jamesinboots.livejournal.com]

HE DOES AND HE IS CHOCOLATE BEAR. HE'S A BIG DAMN HERO AND I LOVE HIM FOR IT. GAH!

[vinylroad.livejournal.com]

but i think dean's heart just isn't in it anymore, the witty repartee. being all flirty with some girl he doesn't like, nah. no thanks. but if she needs him - if she's being real with him - he can open up.

BINGO.

YES. THANK YOU, GOD. WE ARE WINCHESTERS AND WE DON'T TALK ABOUT OUR FRIGGIN FEELINGS, GLORY HALLELUJAH.

Agreed. I was like, "Sera Gamble didn't write this episode, they better not start talking about feelings or crying n' shit."


I didn't see SV, but there really isn't any way for Lana to get WORSE than she was early in the series... but I have to say that the little snippets of evil Lana are making me LIKE HER. I feel like hell should be freezing over or something.

[winterlive.livejournal.com]

Sera Gamble didn't write this episode, they better not start talking about feelings or crying n' shit.

ahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

[vinylroad.livejournal.com]

You know it's true. Dean would have a solitary, crystal-like tear running down his cheek while Sam cuddled him and asked him where it hurt.

[winterlive.livejournal.com]

and then dean would softly confess his secret love and sam would blush like a virgin. which he secretly was, because he was saving it all for dean.

[vinylroad.livejournal.com]

Then Dean would pull over, they'd put on a little emo rock and make out like teenagers. They'd rut against one another until Dean comes, at which point he'd cry like a little baby and declare that Sam is the only one for him.

Ugh, I think I just threw up into my mouth a little bit.



(God bless editing comments because it's 4am and my verb tenses make ME want to cry like a little baby. Fuck, I'm so tired I don't even know if I fixed them or not. Whatever.)

[winterlive.livejournal.com]

i love you even though you do these things to me. why? because you stay up with me til all hours reading things and then forgive me when i accidentally fall asleep on your head. <3

[vinylroad.livejournal.com]

Whatever, Miss. Sammy-blushes-like-a-virgin, you give as good as you get.

You love me because I'm awesome.






Jensen fucks a porpoise, the end.

[iyalode.livejournal.com]

a solid, meaty episode

Yep, second that. Rock solid from start to finish. Just like Sammy, firm all over. HEE.

Also, did the FX dept win the lottery or something? 'cause there was some neat stuff here tonight.

Tux. Dean, gravestone with the shotgun. Oh yeah! I'm anticipating the icons from this one like whoa.

[douxquemiel.livejournal.com]

Between the opening sequence, the ship (it's there and then NOT THERE! OOOOH!), and the guy in the tub, Supernatural FX WON THE LOTTO. Or CW realized that there is money in two hot guys killing demons. Really, either way, I APPROVE.

(<-- isn't winterlive, btw. XD )

[winterlive.livejournal.com]

yeah, dude. DUDE. the pirate ship.

[bathsweaver.livejournal.com]

I punched the air during the buff guy/bathtub scene. It was so very much a mirror of the s1 episode with Amy Acker, right down to the ichor-colored water. it made me so happy. I really do love this show.

[winterlive.livejournal.com]

look it's a hot guy in pajama pants leaning waaaaaaay over.

...awesome.

[tenaciousmetoo.livejournal.com]

Please to be deleting JF if it suddenly decides to triple post this comment all of a sudden. Doesn't want to play with me today.

Hanyway....

One of the things I liked best about this ep is that Dean wanted to blow the $10k on roulette and craps. No heavy-handed we-must-go-make-more-money-for-Sammy's-future-by-scamming-pool-or-poker stuff; just pure, unapologetic Ima-blow-this-wad-on-games-of-chance-will-poor-odds-because-it-will-be-fun.

I'm kinda enjoying Avoidance!Dean.

[winterlive.livejournal.com]

dude, YES. very much in line with dean's actual displayed personality, instead of the fanony mommy crap he usually gets saddled with. thumbs up!

[sophie-448.livejournal.com]

i'm starting to wonder, though, if that's not more a function of dean than of the actors - when he was crouching on the ground with her in his arms, trying to save her, things got way better. every minute he spent being really, really angry at her was good too. but i think dean's heart just isn't in it anymore, the witty repartee. being all flirty with some girl he doesn't like, nah. no thanks. but if she needs him - if she's being real with him - he can open up.

That right there? Just saved this episode for me. *bows down before your awesome brilliance* Because I had a real problem with Dean's lack of ability to banter with Bela in this episode and was really angry with the writers for portraying Dean as stupid. Because he's NOT! But this! If it's Dean just not wanting to do it anymore? THAT IS BRILLIANT!

[winterlive.livejournal.com]

the difference for me was brought really sharply in when dean was looking into her face after the spirit had been sent off. there was solid connection there, without jensen really seeming to try; he just carried it off effortlessly. and that's always been the mark, for me, of something really in line with a character's being, is when it seems natural.

so the banter, yeah, not so much. bantering with SAMMY seems strained lately, so i can hardly imagine it being easy with bela. saving her life, though: sure. yes. that's what we do. listening to her confession, the parts of her life that are not so awesome: sure. we do that every day anyway.

i mean, christ. if the months of your life were ticking down, would you want to spend them playing footsie with a bitch you later mime shooting in the head? no? yeah, me neither.

[douxquemiel.livejournal.com]

re: Bela; angry sex line & odd chemistry-
YES. YES YES YES YES YES. I've kept a relatively open mind about the girls, and so far they've been AWESOME. Bela has her own history, her own issues, but she's a kickass broad with a take-no-prisoners attitude. Unless she can make money. :P And Dean is DEFINITELY different. Seeing Ben (aka: mini!Dean) knocked him for one, and he's definitely looking at life a little differently. And I love it.

re: CLASSY BOYS-
If I may-- TUXES. ZOMG HOLY HELL TUXES. When Dean came down the stairs? And Bela was all O_O *eats for dinnar*. And the angry sex line! And objectification!! It pains me, the adorable. And the sexiness. *faints* Jared was hot, but in the first shot with him in the tux, his hair was a little too slicked for me. But it got better, once he had some champagne. :D And DEAN with the lockpicking? And the James Bond shot of him in the tux, with those GORGEOUS EYES. *dies*

re: Sexualization of Horror and Violence-
YES. Half-nekkid man FTW. I should make a "Sarah's Thoughts About This Episode" post and just have it be a link to your post. XD

Finally, re: feelings-
YES AGAIN. Dean doesn't talk. Really. Think about it. All these car conversation heart-to-hearts (while psychosocially appropriate-- women prefer to communicate about important issues while being face to face, like sitting at a meal, etc; men prefer to communicate side by side, like in a car or at a diner/bar counter) are NOT THE WINCHESTER WAY. I want Sam to punch him. I mean, Dean is RIGHT in his own, twisted way, but so is Sam. They need to duke it out. Or just have sex. O_O Wait, did I say that?


Hmmm. Yeah, I could just summarize this entire comment with "I TOTALLY AGREE, YOU ARE MADE OF AWESOME, AND I HEART YOU."

[winterlive.livejournal.com]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA when jared drained the first champagne glass omggggg he's so fucking funny it hurts me.

i'm liking bela a lot better with this ep than i did with her intro, it's true.

the phrase "duke it out" is so thematically appropriate to this show that i hereby salute you.

[douxquemiel.livejournal.com]

Dude, Cougar Attacks can be fatal. I'd be downing champagne, too. *shudder*

The girls are growing on me (...that sounds like I'm growing tits.), both Bela and Ruby. I find... I want MORE of them. I like the way they work with the boys. They're not stealing their thunder, by any means (HAI, TUXES. TUXES.), but their chemistry (both Bela's and Ruby's) works really well. I am warily optimistic about them. :D

I WIN ALL THE PRIZES. *throws party* *creates banner for LJ userinfo that reads "saluted by winterlive"* Dude, the Winchesters don't talk about their feelings. They DUKE. IT. OUT. See: any conversation with Papa Winchester. Ever.

[winterlive.livejournal.com]

hee hee hee heeeee yes. fuck and yes.

[douxquemiel.livejournal.com]

♥

[missyjack.livejournal.com]

I wanted this episode twice as long so we could get more of everything!!!

I loved that Bela was using the boys all along. And that she tosses them cash rather than a thank you.

I loved that we got buff girls and boys being murdered. And I adored the imagery of the ghost brother's dissolving into each other.

I think you are spot on about Dean getting weary of the whole 'witty repartee' thing. His progression from anger in the opening scene at Sam to his apology at the end, showed what was going on beneath the surface during this episode.

[winterlive.livejournal.com]

of COURSE bela was using the boys all along. of course she was! she's bela! it's what she does! but now she has a reason for it, a family member dead by her own hand, and i love that. evil with a PURPOSE, man, it's so much better than the other kind. soooo much better. so.

[brandil.livejournal.com]

Lana Luthor is *so* much worse than Lex could ever be, I totally agree and this season she's the most interesting and deep we're seeing. Lex is much improved over last season but Lana is completely eclipsing him. I'm seriously in love with SV season 7 only one serious clunker so far, which may be a record.

[axis2cluster-b.livejournal.com]

SPN? I wasn't impressed this week, and didn't like that I wasn't. I thot the best part was Sammy and the old lady, and that DID give me serious happies.

SV? I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for Lana to finally ROCK, and she's there. This pleases me.