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i hate bandom.

[livejournal.com profile] phaballa made a post about how bandom guys being gay with each other onstage is as offensive as blackface, and a buncha people commented, i'm sure you've all seen it.

and now bandom's oppressed by fandom at large, and if being gay onstage is exploitative then so is slashfic, and the fundamental point of all RPS is seperating the person from the role so if you hate fallout boy's music but still fan them b/c they gay all over each other that's totally the same thing, and OH GOD MAKE IT STOP.

i just can't STAND it. and to be honest with you, it's not the music. i've heard maybe six songs by the aforementioned bands and one is sort of okay and the others, eh, whatever. and do i care that they french each other on stage? no. i could give a flying fuck. let 'em! but sweet god in heaven, their fans are going to drive me insane. maybe there are two or three people in bandom who are reasonable and like the music (pete wentz's mom?), and i'm sure those three people are about five seconds away from a homicidal rampage right now, because believe me, i know their pain.

after all, i am in supernatural fandom.


ETA: GIP.
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Date: 2007-09-06 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com
I have a couple of Bandom fen on my Flist. None of them have mentioned this (yet).

I am glad I'm not in the fandom, because you may have noticed MY TENDENCY TO FANGIRL THE CHARACTERS WHO HAVE THE SCARIEST FUCKING FEN IN THE UNIVERSE.

Date: 2007-09-06 02:34 am (UTC)
ext_9649: (Default)
From: [identity profile] traveller.livejournal.com
so here's what's going to happen. someone is going to flip out and go on a thirty state killing spree. this shit will make andrew cunanan look like a pussy. and when the fbi and the cia and interpol are trying to figure out what the FUCK this shit is, somebody will have their clarice starling moment and notice what all the victims had in common:

fall out boy cds, and livejournal accounts.

Date: 2007-09-06 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robanybody.livejournal.com
Can I just say how profoundly paralyzed I am with the not caring? Gimme my new episodes of SPN, bitches!

Date: 2007-09-06 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com
i have one or two myself. i have defriended for it, believe me, but you have those people that you love like sisters and even though they love bandom (why god why) you must stick with them and love them, good times and bad.

i just. bandom rubs me the wrong way like matter is rubbed wrong by ANTI-MATTER.

Date: 2007-09-06 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyra-wing.livejournal.com
Man, I am kinda glad I'm not in the fandom. It feels like I've been through all this RPS reality-non-reality debate already because of popslash, and I'm GLAD I'm just dealing with fictional people now. *yay Winchesters*

Date: 2007-09-06 02:46 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-09-06 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soundingsea.livejournal.com
I don't think I could tell "fall out boy" from "lance bass", or whatever they are called. And I don't care enough to google. I am mostly just commenting on your tag, because "gentlemen start your wanking" is laugh-aloud funny. :)

Also, even if these performers aren't actually gay, isn't seeing guy-guy action going to be a good influence on the open-mindedness of their young fans?

Date: 2007-09-06 02:49 am (UTC)
luminosity: (bipolar fandom)
From: [personal profile] luminosity
JESUS H. CHRIST.

Date: 2007-09-06 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com
THE FOURTH!! WE WANTS IT, PRECIOUS!

and we wants to hang out with people who know the difference between fantasy (sam/dean, jared/jensen, totally in love/having sex) and reality (THEY'RE FUCKING BROTHERS). :D

Date: 2007-09-06 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com
HIDE, LYRA. HIDE FROM THE MADNESS.

Date: 2007-09-06 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robanybody.livejournal.com
Seriously, Danny, I've been through the same fucking argument every year for the last seven years. NO MORE.

Sane people in fandom, plis.

Date: 2007-09-06 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ex_halo669
HI FRANKIE!

*blows kisses*

Date: 2007-09-06 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bookishwench.livejournal.com
::ignores bandom completely::

::concentrates on Old Blue Eyes::

Oooo, Frank!

::swoons::

::uses Jimmy Stewart icon as he's the closest I've got, though, sadly, it's a little like comparing the Gladiator Maximus with Opie Taylor from the Andy Griffith Show::

Date: 2007-09-06 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyra-wing.livejournal.com
ON A POGO STICK. ;)

Hee.

Date: 2007-09-06 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com
oh, probably. there are likely people out there who are seeing them do these things and thinking, "gosh, i guess guys kissing isn't so bad." and good for them.

all the people around HERE are ALREADY okay with guys kissing, and MORE than okay, and they are having the same problem that sections of supernatural have, vis a vis what is an actual gay couple and what is men being affectionate toward each other.

ARGH.

cheers, swigen.

Date: 2007-09-06 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaspoon.livejournal.com
danny, i have no idea if you think i'm one of the reasonable bandomers or not, but to me, the facts are as follows: a) there are people who are actively trying to make other people feel bad about the bands they enjoy, be it for musical or other reasons; b) there are fans who are really, really touchy about the fact that people are making fun of bandom, sometimes even when the fun is being made without malicious intent; c) i am sick to death of BOTH SIDES of this not-so-little spat.

[livejournal.com profile] phaballa's post, in my opinion, addresses a slightly different, more specific issue, and for the most part, the comments i'm seeing in the posts by bandslashers are not irrational flappings about w/r/t bandom feeling oppressed. i'm seeing a lot of attempts at actual discussion, which i'm assuming was the intent of the original post.

the fact that all of it makes my head want to explode notwithstanding, i have to say that i am kind of hurt by your post, specifically because of this line: but sweet god in heaven, their fans are going to drive me insane -- it smacks so much of what the fans are complaining about; that other fans feel that it's okay to make sweeping statements like that about band fans. personally, i would never say that in my journal about any fandom, whether it's one that i'm in or not.

i'm sorry, bibi. i'm not trying to attack you, i'm just pointing out that you are reinforcing the kind of behavior that i have been facing from many corners ever since i started getting interested in the bands/fiction/stage gay/etc. i still ♥ you.

Date: 2007-09-06 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com
ANY GODDAMN TIME NOW.

they make us all tired. but look, the boys have coffee. bring it to us, precious, i hope you remembered the sugar this time. *slurp*

Date: 2007-09-06 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vinylroad.livejournal.com
Musicians exploiting their sexuality on stage to sell albums/sell tickets/make fans happy? What a new concept. Whatever. If they sang less and made out more, I might actually like bandom.


Mmmm, probably not.

Sinatra is the man.

Date: 2007-09-06 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com
oh, AND HOW.

Date: 2007-09-06 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com
hey, baby, yer a great dame.

Date: 2007-09-06 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com
hee hee hee hee.

i just. he came up recently, and i was like, HOW DO I NOT HAVE AN ICON. and then.

Date: 2007-09-06 03:05 am (UTC)
ext_9649: (readings in modern postmodernism)
From: [identity profile] traveller.livejournal.com
Musicians exploiting their sexuality on stage to sell albums/sell tickets/make fans happy? What a new concept.

yeah, somewhere right now David Bowie is laughing uncontrollably and can't quite put his finger on why. meanwhile, Farinelli is looking down from the heavens and whispering amateurs...

Date: 2007-09-06 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maggiesox.livejournal.com
Bandom makes the baby Jesus cry.

...And also the music sucks.

Date: 2007-09-06 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zelost-mind.livejournal.com
Ah, bandom.

...And you know what ELSE? My Chemical Romance are not freakin' punk. WTF. *wanks*

Date: 2007-09-06 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paperbinned.livejournal.com
Doesn't Sam listen to Fall Out Boy? That a-hole.
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